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# 41
04-11-2011, 02:18 PM
I like powerlevel. i think it's a clever way to make money. like, once venos were hated because "rare pets isnt fair!! they're the richest and most powerful class ever" and its like not that worthy anymore (the pets, i mean). so if you don't have a good gear neither level to solo FF, whats the big deal of paying someone to do it? pwi is not going to put an end at this because as ppl level faster, they get even poorer (1m a run is kinda too much, i agree >.>) and go for fast cash. and as they hit 101 and have no money to get r9 gear or even shard it, more and more cash is purchased (either if the player isnt patience enough to go TT or something...). so idk, i rather pay someone to powerlevel me till 80 and then make my own squads

by the way, how many runs do I need to hit level 80? i'm level 75 (supposing i'm going 2 runs a day hypering only at big room and heads) ty ty


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# 42
04-11-2011, 02:20 PM
btw, i've never seen a barb soloing FF. cant they solo it? even with high APS? >.>


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# 43
04-11-2011, 02:23 PM
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Looking at the concept of power-leveling logically, it seems to be just a simple black and white scenario in which the answer to the "yay or nay" question depends on what kind of person is taking advantage of it.
(I'll be referencing only FC runs as an example, but my rational here applies to all forms of power-leveling)

Certain players will painstakingly grind their way up to the top, clock in countless hours and obtain a strong grasp on how the game works. This type of player knows his class from experience. This player is knowledgeable enough to work their way through the ins and outs of whatever new class he or she might be making in the future. These players will never view power-leveling as an absolute necessity, but also knows that it can be done, in moderation, that it doesn't compromise the integrity of said character.

The other kind of player will see power-leveling as a way to reach the top and get all the best gear and such in the quickest amount of time possible. I'll make the blunt assumption that this person care a little more about this game than is healthy: to think that simply by being a "pro" character that they are impressing someone who actually matters in their life. One can power-level and cash shop his or her way to godliness without putting in a fraction of the time or work spent by those of us who actually play the game to play the game. Whether a veteran or a "newbie", this kind of player will see "WTS FC run 500k..etc" and take the bait every time, just to get to level 100.

The issue I have with power-leveling is that because of it, reaching a high level is no longer an achievement. The way things should be is that players who are level 80+ should be viewed with the assumption that they are experienced, knowledgeable and dedicated players, worthy of respect. Unfortunately, due to the ease of which power-leveling can be done, those who have played the game without cutting corners can no longer be distinguished between those who cash shopped for all their gear and cut corners for their levels. Characters with actual substance now exist in anonymity.

Nobody -really- wants to cash shop. In stage terms, that's "breaking the fourth wall". The point of any kind of video game is that it casts it's players into a new "world" (so to speak) in which real-life factors don't reflect on the game. It's completely understandable that players who'v legitimately worked for their high level without cash shopping want to keep as much of their gaming experience *IN GAME* as possible. Selling FC runs is just another way of playing the market.

It's full of negative consequences. It's shady, but it's legit.

In short, power-leveling ruins the pride and respect that *ALL* high level characters deserve. Those of us who enable others to power-level for our own benefit are simply exploiting a personality defect that many have, to cut corners with no thought of any kind of consequence.
i enjoyed reading this and a well respected post ...and i feel the same about power leveling with pride and respect so i didnt power level any of my toons but i dont buy gold and power leveling people is a legit way to make some extra cash... and as a wizard :/ not much i can solo cheaply to make money and merchanting only takes u but so far...but i hold nothing against people who power level cause at the end of day its a game and they can have fun however they choose but for us people who didnt power level ... we know what perfect world really is and we've expanded its fun to last many many moons while p lvl'ed people only think they know fun ^^
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# 44
04-11-2011, 02:27 PM
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I like powerlevel. i think it's a clever way to make money. like, once venos were hated because "rare pets isnt fair!! they're the richest and most powerful class ever" and its like not that worthy anymore (the pets, i mean). so if you don't have a good gear neither level to solo FF, whats the big deal of paying someone to do it? pwi is not going to put an end at this because as ppl level faster, they get even poorer (1m a run is kinda too much, i agree >.>) and go for fast cash. and as they hit 101 and have no money to get r9 gear or even shard it, more and more cash is purchased (either if the player isnt patience enough to go TT or something...). so idk, i rather pay someone to powerlevel me till 80 and then make my own squads

by the way, how many runs do I need to hit level 80? i'm level 75 (supposing i'm going 2 runs a day hypering only at big room and heads) ty ty
if u play on archosaur server my squad could make u 80 in 1 hour for 5mil.. but i havnt been online for 2 days im sick of the community trashin me for power leveling people figured id take a break till the high levels stop the QQ
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# 45
04-11-2011, 02:30 PM
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You'd get on anyone's bad side if you try to brag about your "net worth" and how many teles you waste as a way to rationalize powerleveling. You'll notice I'm not the only one here that doesn't take you seriously.
sorry i wasnt trying to brag :/ sorry if i offended you ... and how to u take that as a rationalization to power leveling :/ u mis comprehended my post ... was only asking for views on power leveling in sort
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# 46
04-11-2011, 02:32 PM
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if u play on archosaur server my squad could make u 80 in 1 hour for 5mil.. but i havnt been online for 2 days im sick of the community trashin me for power leveling people figured id take a break till the high levels stop the QQ
whoa thats nice >.> too bad i play at heaven's tear :/ still, 1h would be like...1 run? o.O


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# 47
04-11-2011, 02:36 PM
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whoa thats nice >.> too bad i play at heaven's tear :/ still, 1h would be like...1 run? o.O
i dont use fc to p lvl and my method gives 3 times the spirit as fc heads im the best on my server and cheapest in business for 4 days now and serviced over 30 people... my best job was 1-68 . we charge 5mil an hour rate for anyone and we get the job done ^^ if you wanna learn more u gotta come to arch :)
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# 48
04-11-2011, 02:42 PM
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i dont use fc to p lvl and my method gives 3 times the spirit as fc heads im the best on my server and cheapest in business for 4 days now and serviced over 30 people... my best job was 1-68 . we charge 5mil an hour rate for anyone and we get the job done ^^ if you wanna learn more u gotta come to arch :)
thats cruel well ty xD wish me luck on hitting 80 soon T_T


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# 49
04-11-2011, 02:49 PM
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thats cruel well ty xD wish me luck on hitting 80 soon T_T
good luck lol u might wanna try oracles i oracled from 91-92 its a fun way of leveling if u got the money and u get to meet lots of people

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# 50
04-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Again a thread like this ?

Just do like most posters replied to that in other ones.

- Jealous of someone powerleveling and you can't ? Your problem, not theirs.

- You get in a squad with someone that powerleveled and feel he/she is a noob ? Leave squad, blacklist if needed.

- You made 10 alts and want to do the whole arch area of quests 10 times ? it's you.

Each their ways of playing the game..
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