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# 21
07-15-2009, 07:19 AM
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To the OP the only thing that would have been funnier is if the tabber all of a sudden relogged just as you all died, saw you dead on the ground and seeing that the boss was so low ended up getting in a crit hit or two and killing it themself. I seriously thought that's where the story was going and it would have been hilarious.

As for fb51 I think it's fairly easy so long as you have 1 BM or Barb (Barb preferred) and a cleric (although I have seen high venos with hercs tank). The 3rd boss is simple so long as the cleric purifies immediately when they see debuff. By the level that a cleric can do fb51 (i.e. lvl 51 lol) their Iron Heart should have enough range to cast outside of the AoE effect provided the tank is positioned directly between the boss and the cleric. (No side angle healing else you'll get hit). The purify however at that level is likely only level 1 or 2 for most clerics (although getting to 6 at least quickly is a good move for any cleric) Regardless if you spam heal out of AoE range and as soon as you see the debuff put on the tank purify. Your character will rush in because the spell cast range is short at that level. Once you cast run back out of AoE range and cast IH again at it's max range. Lather, rinse and repeat as necessary. It may occur that you get hit by AoE once when you rush in, but just pot. You should be able to take one hit even though it may take your hp very low. One last note is that if you are a low level cleric solo assisting you have to warn the squad that they either need to stay out of range or else heal themselves. Also if they die there will be no time or ability to rez. Your focus needs to be on the tank only. At level 52 I managed to get a level 5x bm and low 6x bm only (3 of us in squad) through fb51 with patience and a lot of mp pots. As a level 6x cleric and higher there should be no issues at all and you can even cast a chromatic or two to heal members around you and others with range. Of course this all goes to hell if a mage or archer pulls aggro and is standing right next to you. Then all bets are off!!!
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07-15-2009, 12:02 PM
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51 has 2 main problems.
The first two bosses patrol and take ages to return to the place you want to kill them. Often this leads to a rushed engagement which can be problematic with addons about.

Secondly, there are patrol mobs in there and particularly at the second boss they often manage to show up after you aggro the boss.
First boss is on a 6 min patrol route, so he's not so bad.

Second boss is on a 22 min patrol route. Miss him and you're going to be waiting a while. Fortunately the pillar and the place most people fighting him is near the middle of the route, so the longest you'll usually wait is 11 min.

The patrols are not so bad if you have a veno. Assign the veno to take on any wanderers. The barb + cleric must stay focused on the boss. The key is to plan ahead for this eventuality before it happens, and make sure everyone understands their role if/when it does happen.

IMHO the biggest problem with this FB are the AOEs. The second boss is particularly bad since he's got a short-range physical AOE that will one-shot most robe classes, and a medium-range magic AOE which will take off 1/3rd the hp of most robe classes. A cleric is a requirement if you're doing this as a group.

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Hardest thing for me in FB51 is to remember where the door guardians/watchmen/watchmacallit mobs are.
I've given up trying to find the guardian for that last door which nobody uses anyway, so I'll post my guide to the FB on the Nocturne guild website soon, Haz.

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FB 51 can be done easily with one Veno and herc 73+

Dont get there below that level if you dont have a barb for last boss.

Myriad is ont of those boss that does that crappy debuff ( lower hp + aug damages like the one in 69)
Actually a 66 veno with herc can solo it, maybe even 63. Not that I recommend it. The first boss has a ranged attack so doesn't take reflect damage from the herc, and takes forever to kill. I've tried skipping him by taking advantage of his romaing path, but it's risky.

The debuff on the last boss is nasty, but can be overcome with some channeling equipment to speed up your heals.
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07-15-2009, 12:07 PM
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Dang....I have only had about 3 fail runs with this fb...although I used to consider it cursed.

Now however, after who knows how many runs, I find is a piece of cake. To the point where I have tanked it a few times

Its really not that difficult overall, the issues arrive when everyone goes nuts with the mobs.

If you have a veno = use them
If no veno = Extreme Poison

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07-15-2009, 12:12 PM
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I for one, absolutely abhor FB 51 more than any other. You have to do it TWICE because the stupid guy does not give you the last boss until you kill the others...The Tabber gets...TWO TABS!? WTF!? There are 4 bosses and he/she gets TWO TABS!? Is that remotely fair at all? For going through that labyrinth of a place that you SHOULD BE ABLE TO FLY IN you only get rewarded for TWO of the nasty bosses you have to fight?

Also when we did the Myriadtail everything was going fine and then ALL OF A SUDDEN despite having two clerics healing him my Husband (a lvl 67 Barb at the time) just up and dies...Buffs did not wear off, Clerics did not stop healing...I have NO CLUE why he suddenly dies...And then everyone gets wiped and spends forever finding their way back.
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07-15-2009, 12:19 PM
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I for one, absolutely abhor FB 51 more than any other. You have to do it TWICE because the stupid guy does not give you the last boss until you kill the others...The Tabber gets...TWO TABS!? WTF!? There are 4 bosses and he/she gets TWO TABS!? Is that remotely fair at all? For going through that labyrinth of a place that you SHOULD BE ABLE TO FLY IN you only get rewarded for TWO of the nasty bosses you have to fight?

Also when we did the Myriadtail everything was going fine and then ALL OF A SUDDEN despite having two clerics healing him my Husband (a lvl 67 Barb at the time) just up and dies...Buffs did not wear off, Clerics did not stop healing...I have NO CLUE why he suddenly dies...And then everyone gets wiped and spends forever finding their way back.
Ummm....you do not have to do it twice...lol.

After the 2nd boss have the tabber tele out, turn in quest and comeback in with 3rd tab.

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07-15-2009, 12:24 PM
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Cant say this is the easiest fb, its taking quite some time, but if you know the run, if you can realistically apreciate boss as strong/week and your powers against him, no fb should make any problems, except 69 which is the hardest if you dont have a proper squad. Yes you should know that for 2nd and 3rd boss in fb51 you need a high veno (herc) to tank them or a high lvl bm/barb with a 70+ cleric else your squad might be rapped cause clerics die easy from aoe! I do this fb without cleric just me and another veno 80+ , both with hercs and the rest of squad is random lvls 52+ the main condition is tabber to listen and all < 65 stay away from aoe! My clannies had the other day a 3 hours run in fb51... they said it was horrible but the reason was that the party was not proper, cleric not high enough and tabber didnt wanna listen... usually these r the reasons the lead to an epic fail on fbs.
LoL...I could handle the AoE's of all bosses in here when I was lvl 55 without a problem. Then again, I am a Fox Veno and we are tough as Nails and Life Steal. Despite our earlier failure when we went against the last boss again we took it fine with a lvl 67 Barb and a pair of level 50+ Clerics. So you do NOT need a Herc nor 20 level higher Clerics you just need a competent team. That...and a little Amp Damage from your friendly neighborhood Fox Veno heehee.
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07-15-2009, 12:41 PM
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That fb has baaaad "mojo" !!
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07-15-2009, 12:50 PM
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[color="DarkOrchid"]LoL...I could handle the AoE's of all bosses in here when I was lvl 55 without a problem. Then again, I am a Fox Veno and we are tough as Nails and Life Steal.
You got lucky, or had very good buffs and clerics. I ate 4 or 5 deaths to test Rankar's AOEs solo when my veno was about 64, level 60ish heavy armor, fox form. I took anywhere from 600 to nearly 1400 damage from the AOEs.

I tried switching to robes, which helped with the magical AOE. But that's when I discovered he also has a physical AOE. It hit me for 2100+ (insta-kill).
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07-15-2009, 01:27 PM
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I've given up trying to find the guardian for that last door which nobody uses anyway, so I'll post my guide to the FB on the Nocturne guild website soon, Haz.
Do you mean the guardian for the door blocking the path on the east side of the FB map? I'd been thinking this might be a useful way to pick up the additional mobs while getting the tabholder out and back in between bosses 2 and 3 with a little less lost time. If I'd be wasting my time looking for it, though, that is useful info, but darned if it doesn't seem like he should be in that big room just beside the door.
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07-15-2009, 01:40 PM
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Do you mean the guardian for the door blocking the path on the east side of the FB map? I'd been thinking this might be a useful way to pick up the additional mobs while getting the tabholder out and back in between bosses 2 and 3 with a little less lost time. If I'd be wasting my time looking for it, though, that is useful info, but darned if it doesn't seem like he should be in that big room just beside the door.
No, the east path guardian is on the way (there's a T-intersection just after you enter the east path - he's at the west branch of the T). This route is good if you only want to kill Rankar (2nd boss). But if you try to take it all the way to the 3rd boss (Wyvern), it's actually longer because you have to backtrack along the common middle path to open the next door.

The door I can't figure out is the one by the first guardian (the one which opens the door by where most people kill Rankar). It opens up the far west path in the intermediate part of the FB (the common route would be down the middle). That looks like it could let you skip the first and second bosses and head straight to the third.
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