I have been off this char awhile playing lower lvl alts but decided to do a bh79 styg some days ago, fist thing i notice is instead of blessing i get this quest to kill mobs called "monster kills" or something like it.

Now after searching the forums the only thing i understand bout this quest is that if you kill the right amount of mobs before the boss u can weaken him. So if i dont kill those mobs will he be stronger than usual? Also does wine have any effect on it?

if you read the full description of the "quest", it states that Wines will in fact "weaken" the boss even though you havn't killed any monsters.

And yes, the bosses will be stronger if you don't kill the required amount of monsters, which you should get more than enough monster kills to weaken the bosses if you are doing it unwined.

thanks, guess i should have read the actual quest alittle better first, so far i have only did it wined but yea, seems gettin the kills before the bosses is easy.

Somehow the bosses seem to be stronger after update than before, even if an instance is wined.

Before the update, I could solo Stygean and his damage would be around 700-900 when I'm fighting up close. Now it's hundreds more, which doesn't seem to add up. I solo'ed Brigand as well before the update and he hit 1500-1800. That's without clerics or any other dd's. I, unfortunately, had to tank fb79 after the update (and it was wined too) and Brigand was hitting well over 2200 *with* a BB in place.

Without wine or the requisite number of kills, the bosses are incredibly powerful. After the update I tried solo'ing bh79 again and apparently, Stygean was handing out 50k damage shots. He called me "Stupid" too. But, yeah. Just somethings I noticed in the wined and unwined bosses before and after the update.

Be careful running those instances o.O

What Amarante said. I've been getting hit a lot harder than I should be, even if the dungeon is wined.

maybe thats because there is no dominance blessing..... no more +10 defense level action for ya
unless im the only one not getting them anymore?

It's not just you. They removed Dominance Blessings from dungeons in the last patch.

I don't think I've tanked Brigand or Linus since the patch, so I don't really know about them. Haven't noticed any increase in damage from Stygean that can't be accounted for by lack of the blessing and possibly different buffs.

lack of blessing = brig and linus hit me for 500-700 more each hit
now im taking defense blessings from academy quest in case ill have to do the tanking, i really really dont like my charm ticked....

It's basically designed to prevent sins from teleporting through doors and soloing all bh. It's the same as when you go in 3-x. Sin teleport = wall hack.

Chances are, it's based on a percentage. So even with blessing, the game doesn't round down close enough to the original boss stats.