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# 1 New EPIC TW Strategy?
06-05-2011, 04:06 PM
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I'm curious to know what do you guys from all the servers collectively think about this scenario:

One of the top guilds on your server has both its main guild and its alt guild on the map. For the sake of simplicity, we shall call this guild ButtHurt. So there is ButtHurt, and BabyButtHurt on the map. Both guilds get attacked, and the attacks end up in the same time slot. The leader of ButtHurt then.. you guessed it, gets butthurt that he/she/it cannot defend both at the same time. So what they decide to do is mass migrate a bunch of mains from ButtHurt into BabyButtHurt so that they can keep all the lands, while at the same time mass QQing that other guilds have alt guilds on the map too.

Then one week, ButtHurt places a bid on a land. They get outbid. So the ButtHurt leader rallies his/her/its members to send tickets reporting the other guild that outbid them for "fake bidding." Due to mass volume and epic QQ, their requests are met by the GMs, and the flock of dodos flies home cawing "victory."

Then, in between, they decide "hey, that was super effective, why don't we employ this tactic in other venues, such as getting members of that guild that pwns us banned for either offensive names, or multiclienting, or ini editing their characters? Nevermind the fact that half of our members have ini edits, and some with offensive names (including the leader). It's us, we're the chosen people. We can do whatever the hell we want." So they do it, and again, they succeed.

Fast forward to yet another week where ButtHurt had been outbid, most likely because their leader is too stupid or too stingy to place a sufficient bid (you'd think someone would learn, wouldn't you?), and what do they do? You guessed it! Spam the GMs with tickets claiming yet another fake bid.

So, in total, there is a guild which has no trouble whatsoever holding its own in TW, on more than one faction, yet its leadership and member base systematically resort to the "Ban Strategy" in order to achieve their wants in TW.

Is this cowardly? Manipulative? A gross injustice? Exploitation and abuse of the TW and ticketing system? I'll let you all decide. Feel free to discuss.
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# 2
06-05-2011, 04:09 PM
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This is Perfect World entertainment. And they just dont give a ****.
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06-05-2011, 04:10 PM
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One of the top guilds on your server has both its main guild and its alt guild on the map. For the sake of simplicity, we shall call this guild ButtHurt. So there is ButtHurt, and BabyButtHurt on the map. Both guilds get attacked, and the attacks end up in the same time slot. The leader of ButtHurt then.. you guessed it, gets butthurt that he/she/it cannot defend both at the same time. So what they decide to do is mass migrate a bunch of mains from ButtHurt into BabyButtHurt so that they can keep all the lands, while at the same time mass QQing that other guilds have alt guilds on the map too.
I didn't read the rest but, when ButtHurt and BabyButtHurt got attacked, wouldn't it be too late to move mains into BabyButtHurt since they won't have the required hour by TW time?
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06-05-2011, 04:15 PM
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GMs basically have the ability and often use to, to ban anyone they want. Normally the people that CS a lot rarely get banned, while the hard working individuals take the bans. But yes, if what your saying is true, something should be done. However, the ToS that everyone basically signed to once they started playing the game, allows GMs to have full power.
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06-05-2011, 04:15 PM
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I didn't read the rest but, when ButtHurt and BabyButtHurt got attacked, wouldn't it be too late to move mains into BabyButtHurt since they won't have the required hour by TW time?
Apologies for the ambiguous terminology. The migrations have not been during the TW times, rather within the margin to make the 100 hour limit, in preparation for future attacks in future weeks. Indeed, once the bids had been announced, it was too late.
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06-05-2011, 04:31 PM
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The only ones "Butthurt" are the Vindi crybabies that keep getting caught doing shady TW tricks and getting justifiably banned for them. OP, why hide behind an faceless alt? Oh wait, gutless underhanded tactics, right up Vindi's ally.
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06-05-2011, 04:41 PM
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The only ones "Butthurt" are the Vindi crybabies that keep getting caught doing shady TW tricks and getting justifiably banned for them. OP, why hide behind an faceless alt? Oh wait, gutless underhanded tactics, right up Vindi's ally.
Look who has a guilty conscience. Why so serious? This is just discussion.
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06-05-2011, 04:41 PM
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Uh oh, here comes the **** storm...

Vindi, shady? Unpossible!
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06-05-2011, 04:44 PM
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What's a Vindi?
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06-05-2011, 04:49 PM
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What's a Vindi?
Vindicate. Tier 1 faction on Sanctuary. They immediately accused Legendary (tier 1 faction on Sanctuary) of foul play when one of their members got banned for ini editing a while back or something, and it turns out, it was someone random/random GM, and Legendary wasn't involved at all. Caused a huge **** storm on the forums.

Vindi leader and director recently got banned for Bidding and winning on their own alt faction's territory, and immediately thereafter, a huge **** storm came up on these forums blaming Legendary again, and again, turns out nobody from legendary gave a **** in the first place.

Basically, it's a bunch of Cash Shopping people who like to complain and point fingers... And while I knew a few people who are in Vindi, I still feel that it is a rather poor guild to be in. >_>

Their drama spilled out into WC/the forums a little toooooooo much for my tastes. >_>
90 Sage Veno (rolled October 2008) FCC
101 Sage Archer (rolled December 2008) NW/TW
92 Demon Cleric (rolled December 2008) Farming gear
100 Demon BM (rolled in December 2008) Farming gear/TW
100 Demon Barb (rolled in December 2008) Gearing up for Catabarb
101 Sage Sin (rolled a month after fish expansion) TW
81/76/77/78 Wiz/Mystic/Seeker/Psy BH for now
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