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# 11
03-14-2009, 05:49 AM
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i wasnt buy eny skills after 60.. and 74 atm.. grinding lvl73 mobs.. what hit only if i miss.. and killing them 4 hit.. and still losing money when i grinding.. not have mp or hp charm.. and wasnt buy arrows like 5 lvls.. bc frends give all arrows to me too.. only repair and pots cost more than i get drops.. something should be different in drop rates.. grinding should be profitable..
I suggest you go here and look at mobs that drop the DQ 71 items. Check them all out and see which mob drops at the highest percentage rate for each type of DQ item. Write down their locations. Go there and kill a few. Choose the ones that are easiest for you to kill to maximize your grinding. This should allow you to maximize your time and profit.

Hope that helps.

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# 12 mp/hp charm
03-14-2009, 05:49 AM
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i know that using charms is cheaper.. but first need have money to buy them.. sometimes i dont even have money to do Crazy stone.. what took abaut 23k.. i hope some1 explain how that is posible whit grinding.. bc whitout grinding wasnt get lvls.. and quest give low money rewards..
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03-14-2009, 05:52 AM
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save up for both an mp and hp charm, and always reserve enough to buy another.

mp pots cost 2.25 times more than gold mp charms, and that is at 400k per charm.

hp pots cost 1.5k more than the gold hp charms, and that is yes again at 400k per charm.

Plus to top it off, life powders are 2k-4k and give 50 hp per second for 10 minutes, and that is 30k hp total. I use them for extra coins saved, plus my charm hardly ticks with one on.

Yes, repairs are allot, especially if you are not using the correct gear for the mob you are grinding at. try pushing the mob away per kill for less hp taken, keep it away.

Use less skills as possible.

As for getting money to buy the charms, farm a few mats, or go to a spot with mobs a bit above half your level, and also a high density of mobs in an area.

Cheers.

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03-14-2009, 06:00 AM
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[73] Evolved Serpent Soulchaser - Forest of Haze^647 397
Sharp Tooth (44.91%)
Tusk (16.66%)

[72] Falcom Howler - Forest of Haze^637 489
Flat Peach (49.39%)
Jade Juyi (10.69%)

[73] Elysium Fowl - south of sanctuary at 676 556 altitude 40
Flat Peach (44.07%)
Jade Juyi (16.35%)

[72] Carrion Vulture - Fragrant Hills^656 595 29
Flat Peach (49.39%)
Jade Juyi (10.69%)

[73] Hooded Adalwolf - Forest of Haze^662 458
Mystical Scale (44.66%)
Mystical Totem (16.57%)

[72] Orchid Petali - Peach Blossom Grove^622 569
Forest of Haze^671 484
Ridge of the Dreaming Cloud^544 306 & 642 498
Mystical Scale (50.63%)
Mystical Totem (10.96%)

[71] Strong Sori Gnawer - Forest of Haze^659 479
Mystical Scale (56.4%)

thats just a few quick ones. Not even the entire run of DQ71 items.

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03-14-2009, 06:06 AM
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i grinding that soulchasers. because of justice. but still lose money whit grinding.. and they are easy to kill..
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03-14-2009, 07:39 AM
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i grinding that soulchasers. because of justice. but still lose money whit grinding.. and they are easy to kill..
Then you are doing something horribly wrong. How often are you using skills? Archer skills cost a lot of MP and you don't have a lot. Most archers I've seen/heard from just use an opener skill (high dmg to start the battle), the slow skill, and the knockback skill, with normal attacks in between. Normal attacks save you MP, which means less MP charms/pots. Also remember that you do 1/2 dmg if attacking a ground creature from the air, so it'll take twice as long to kill, which means twice as many skills and more chances for it to get off shots at you.

If charms and pots are really costing you that much, then I'd suggest investing in the alchemy skill. You can make your own, and ones much more effective than pots, on top of a whole slew of other things. With the items that add damage, you may even find you kill things easier, and with the rarity that you should be taking hits yourself, you may make good use of those defense increasing/damage reducing items to all but eliminate the need for HP pots/charms for grinding. All of that is free with nothing more than some mat farming.
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03-14-2009, 07:41 AM
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are you using spells like thunder shock and lightling strike for grinding? Never ever do this. You can kill mobs easy by using water and knockback arrows. If you dealing with increased defence and increased live mobs, use winged shell. Its blocks most damage and regenerates mana.

This is the way i grind and i rarely have to buy any potions, since there are enough potion drops. And if you have any points on vit and int, buy some point reset scrolls and go pure dex build.
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03-14-2009, 08:00 AM
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if your gear and skills will not let you solo, you should try and help someone else. If you play in a squad, your "gain per kill" will be lower but so will your costs and you should be completing fights faster which also helps you collect monies and stuff. (Of course, you might need to spend some time learning how to work well with your squad members, but this can be very worthwhile.)
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03-14-2009, 09:18 AM
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first, don't use anything other than woven fang arrows. second, don't pay for arrows. you can go to any of the noob fields and pick up lots of them for free, and also while you're grinding. people leave ammo on the ground all the time.
you could even try out different weps to use all 3 types of ammo.

have a different character. some classes use little to no potions, and can collect ammo and pots for your archer. at the same time, they may get quest rewards or drops that would be good for another of your characters. you can be your own best friend.

and as previously recommended, learn apothecary skills and gather herbs and mats wherever you go on all your characters. if you don't want to invest in upping the manu skills, a friend or faction member would likely be very happy to increase their skill level using your herbs and mats to make you things. both of you benefit....

and skills cost money for everyone in the game, and it gets steeper as you level. :(

and also as recommended, watch your skills usage. either invest points in increasing mana(or gear that will), or don't use the high cost skills as much
(to save charm ticking if you have one)
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03-14-2009, 09:28 AM
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